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hey everybody how's it going welcome

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back this is two days in a row on the

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channel

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um i'm excited to be here again thank

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you to everybody that tuned in yesterday

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for my conversation with dr david clarke

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uh he's always such a popular guest

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always brings incredible information um

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and we're gonna have him back probably

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in another month to talk about another

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case

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so yeah good to see everybody in the

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live chat i appreciate you all being

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here and i will just reiterate which i i

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need to do sometimes is just keep the

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chat clean

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i appreciate everybody's got opinions

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but we can talk about things in a mature

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and polite way so with all that being

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said guys let's jump straight into it um

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i'd like to welcome my guest

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christina gomez christina how are you

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doing hi there i am so excited i'm ready

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for this how are you vinnie i'm really

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good thank you it's like 8 p.m here

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which is all good but i know it's like

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midday for you so i do really appreciate

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you being here with me it's too early

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too early

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no really thank you so much um

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i thought the best thing to do to kick

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start it off is just to give us a little

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bit of background about yourself if you

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don't mind

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absolutely so my name is christina gomez

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uh i'm in my early 20s about 22 now um

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i'm a university student and i'm really

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fascinated with the ufo phenomena and

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this all really started at a young age

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like most people it's just kind of like

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it peaks through your childhood ages

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when you are when you're still so

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curious about the universe about the

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things that are just unknown

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while for most people they kind of lose

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that curiosity as as ones get older and

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a big reason for that is that they're

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constantly discouraged by their parents

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by their teachers by elders sayings to

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stop asking questions like just just

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just stop it's so annoying and then when

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you become an adult or even a

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teenager as well

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you have this fake foundation thinking

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that you know everything you don't need

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to ask questions you don't need to be

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curious because you already know what's

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going on in the world and that's simply

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not the case and it makes our existence

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pretty boring to believe the fact that

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we know everything we don't need to

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learn because we have everything in our

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brain and that's not the case so i've

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been really lucky to

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have a foundation that really pushed um

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by my parents to be very innovative

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creative and imaginative as well so all

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the possibilities that are out there

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all the theories all the plausible

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explanations for what these entities

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could be what the fringe science aspects

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i personally believe and here's where my

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opinion comes in that everything is

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possible i'm open-minded because in

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these fields plural no one has all the

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answers anyone that tells you they have

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all the answers is straight up lying to

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you and you better be running the other

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way because that's not the case and that

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goes for any field even

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you can even look at chemistry physics

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cooking as well people are always

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learning there's there's never that end

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game where you're like yeah i'm done but

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that's it that's never going to happen

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in any field so people that say they

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know everything

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are incorrect that's exactly what i say

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red flag run up run away run away oh

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yeah absolutely so

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was there a specific kind of movie or

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anything that kind of kick-started your

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fascination with ufos in particular or

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my favorite tv show and i took this

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pretty often it's the twilight zone i

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grew up with this tv show from the late

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1950s into the 1960s and what's so

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special about that particular tv show

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during this time is one any age can

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watch it it's pg right this is the time

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period where there wasn't any kind of

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profanity or things like that

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but aside from that what's very special

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about the twilight zone in particular is

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that even though the show ends it's a

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very open-ended ending

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so you're able to continue how the story

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will turn out for most episodes in your

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mind and if you have that foundation as

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a child especially living in this

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generation 98 99 to the 2000s and onward

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um everything's just kind of fed to you

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and on a silver spoon school

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anything any to do with the internet the

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media whatever you need to know it's

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given to you without any question and

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you just accept that

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so for me for that tv show it i it

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allowed me to

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continue my imagination into anything

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that i wanted to and

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when it comes to the ufo phenomena

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what's special in my opinion about this

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in the background behind the curtain

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there's a lot going on there's a lot of

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scientific practice

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placed into this a lot of government

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projects as well and while this some of

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this information is public it's just

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hard to find and is that on purpose is

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my question but

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that's what i've come to really enjoy is

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taking that more scientific aspect also

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or that more historical aspect where

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there are countless witnesses there's a

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lot of data to back up those claims and

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of course from there you can come up

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with conclusions you can have your own

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theories of like what if this kind of

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this this leads this one direction you

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jump into all these rabbit holes and

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then

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you come out a mess

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even though that's the case

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even though no one has all the answers

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it makes life that much more interesting

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to believe that there's so much out

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there that we're simply not aware of

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that we don't know about but that we can

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learn about if we put ourselves out

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there either researching through books

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or doing boots on the ground

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investigations there's a lot of people

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don't care about these types of topics

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they have their own experience and it

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changes their lives forever there's no

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turning back for these people i've had

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encounters like that nothing extremely

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profound

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but enough to get me started on this

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field because if you're going in blind

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especially with the you follow with

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ufology

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it can be overwhelming it can be extreme

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and it can be

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scary as well because there's so many

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different paths to take

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either you want to take the historical

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are so many different ones that will

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take you to the same destination at some

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point in time which is the top of the

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mountain hopefully being the truth

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whatever whatever the truth may be we

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all have our own different perspective

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on what the truth is

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here again is my opinion is that instead

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of taking one path capturing all three

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and maybe you'll be able to find the

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truth faster than just taking

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one specific path and that's what i've

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learned and that's what my research has

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guided me towards that kind of answer

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i first started i'm like no opinion no

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bias just straight sheets of paper

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numbers facts information and that's it

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but the more i've been involved it's

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very difficult to avoid certain aspects

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to not just ufology but also the

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paranormal or supernatural and even

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things that would be classified under

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the fringe there's a lot of things that

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just kind of weave

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with history science and spirituality

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and while i try not to

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touch spirituality too much because it's

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very not just theoretical but it's very

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opinionated in my opinion

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um it's it's very hard to

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talk about it and give people a

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foundation on it if that makes sense but

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in in the background

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when i'm looking for answers i can never

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avoid it

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that happens to me well i say it happens

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it happened to me in a big way since

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sort of

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becoming a face in the community here on

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youtube on social media that i came from

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researching from a very nuts and bolts

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researching documents online for years

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since being here and speaking to people

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the the crossovers that i've discovered

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now and you're right there's no avoiding

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it you know when when these other

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aspects of the phenomena do come into

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you know as much as i tried to push it

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aside at first no no i need to focus on

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on the nuts and bolts you just i just

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realized that you can't and you have to

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sort of expand your views and your

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horizons certainly

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without a doubt and and

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that's why a little earlier i mentioned

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if you bring all of those paths together

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into one unique path that fits you the

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you might be able to find the answers

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that you're looking for faster instead

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of neglecting things that you just

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simply don't want to touch for your own

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personal opinion or your own personal

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bias that's where the mistakes lie in

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and that's where you fall short and

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you're like why is it taking me so long

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to find evidence it's because you're

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deliberately pushing certain certain

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things away because either you're scared

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you're confused or you just don't want

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to touch it and and

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i tried doing that and it held me back

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yeah absolutely and so with the subject

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now if you're talking to somebody who

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doesn't really have an interest or

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doesn't know too much how do you bring

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it up with them is there a certain

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method that you formulated where it's

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easier to start here and work you know

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work into the heaviest stuff

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well the first thing that's important is

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to see if they're interested to begin

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with as the most

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famous metaphor goes is you can lead a

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horse to water but you can't force it to

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drink if they're not interested no

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matter what i say no matter what

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evidence i bring to the table they're

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not going to care or they're going to be

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they're going to have a debunker mindset

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not a skeptic mindset but a debunker

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where no matter what information you

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provide they're just not gonna listen to

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it so i never push myself um on to these

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types of people now if they're

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interested i'll be like okay let me let

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me tell you all this and then like i'll

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start glowing i'll be like oh

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and i'll be like let me just tell you

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everything but

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to to honestly start out it's first you

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kind of need to understand the person

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that you're speaking to

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because again there's so many paths what

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if you want to talk to someone with a

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scientific mindset on the spiritual

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aspects of it they're going to brush it

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off so quick

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so if you're able to do just a quick

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look up and down kind of get a like a

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deep breath of who these people are

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which is which is kind of terrible to

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say but doing a a first impression kind

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of look

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from there you're able to kind of

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go around the topic but i usually prefer

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to go with government documents for

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example the uap preliminary report that

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was released in june by the pentagon

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that's something that could not be

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denied while for many people it was

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classified as a nothing burger

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what sticks out the most is that only

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one case out of 144 cases were solved

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that's a big

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your mind to it and so giving people

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just starting off with that that the

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government is taking it seriously and

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then they can go down their own rabbit

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hole and find the path that they're

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looking for so it all starts off with

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just that

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base foundation on who you think these

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people may prefer to research on

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yeah that's that makes perfect sense

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i've used that

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uh preliminary assessment myself when

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speaking to people as well as the new

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york times article and things at the end

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of 2017. now were you

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do you remember when that article came

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out i always ask people do you remember

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where you were when it kind of broke so

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is that something you do recall i can

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tell you the story so this was in 2017.

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i was 17 years old i was in high school

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i didn't care about this i did not care

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at all

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and when it came to the politics and

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that's an air quotes aspect of this

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i just wanted to pass high school and

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graduate i just wanted to eat in the

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library and not be spoken to so um i had

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no idea that the report was released

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until i really joined the community in

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2020 i think they were taking a little

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bit after

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and i had so much to catch up on i'm

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thinking i missed all of this but also

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at this time when this report was

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released i mentally wasn't mature enough

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to grasp that information

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each year especially those that are

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transitioning from

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teens to adulthood your brain is still

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maturing until the age of about 25.

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so

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while

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last year i might not have grasped

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something even for yourself any a year

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later through experiences or just

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through the development of the brain

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you're just able to grasp information

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better so everything comes as it should

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be you find information when you're

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ready for it

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however you want to believe that to be

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and so when that report came out

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it went over my head i had no idea

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that's fair enough i appreciate your

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honesty i'm gonna jump into a couple of

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questions that i've already had in the

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in the live chat here um elena says hi

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all love christina and looking forward

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to hearing her in the hot seat

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um she says where does christina want to

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begin on her post-grad journey

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so my plan

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is to buy a trailer

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and to travel across the united states

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visiting hot spots interviewing

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witnesses that have interacted or seen a

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ufo or even the paranormal and

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documenting all of that so it'll be kind

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of like not not a it'll be like a

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journal in in like a video journal a

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blog i guess what you call a vlog

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a vlog

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so that's

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that's where i'm placing my my my future

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dreams right there but if i can get it

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by this summer you know i'm down i'm

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ready i'm ready to move out of this tiny

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dorm apartment and move into a smaller

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living room but being able to travel and

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that's my dream it's been my dream since

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i've since high school and even before

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wanting to visit hot spots just like

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traveling the country

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is is a lot of people's dream but not

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everyone is able to to fulfill that and

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hopefully i will be able to so but i

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want to say by the summer

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i'm i'm putting my dreams out there my

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intention out there but if it happens

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next year the year after

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it's going to happen at some point for

402
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sure that's awesome yeah and you get a

403
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new view to wake up to every morning

404
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boots on the ground and speaking to

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people yeah there's nothing better i

406
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like that um moving on let's uh sneaky

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toaster asks do you agree with luella

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zondo's assessment that we as a nation

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humanity need to offer some form of

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amnesty to those who made decisions the

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custodians valet talks about should they

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come forward

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that's a heavy one

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well sneaky toaster first off i love

415
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your name that it makes me smile

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as for your question

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agreeing or disagreeing with luella

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zondo we simply cannot force other

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people to come forward first off it

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takes a lot of courage for me just to be

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able to speak to you on camera telling

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you my experiences telling you

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information that i found it took a year

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for me to prep mentally and i'm not even

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getting into detail of people that have

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to sign nda that they simply cannot

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bring forth information for what 20

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years a lifetime

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so

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people that have come out

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so far

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have been given permission to do so is

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it by the government is it by the

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expiration date of their of their um

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nda

436
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we don't know we can ask possibly but

437
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what they tell us

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that that that's where it's getting

439
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complicated

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humans and the human heart and the human

441
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mind is very complex they're also very

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irrational at times while it can be easy

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to read certain people

444
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for the most part if you're dealing with

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people that deal with secret information

446
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those that are part of the government

447
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it's very difficult to read because

448
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they're like chess players they take one

449
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step forward but they're thinking 10

450
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steps ahead that most people simply

451
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cannot follow

452
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so to answer your question i'm really

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sorry it's it's it's hard to say because

454
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no matter what i what opinion i give you

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if i agree or disagree

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it's not gonna change these people to

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come forward

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yeah and in that question as well sneaky

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toaster mentioned

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amnesty what do you you know we've heard

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i've heard that banded about a bit you

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know for the secret keepers who may be

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afraid of repercussions if they come

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forward

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do you think that we should give amnesty

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to these these people who have held a

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as the saying goes

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those that

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judge

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compassionate will receive compassion

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while we may want something really bad

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we want those secrets we want these

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people to come out how would we treat

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them afterwards oh you've been lying to

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us for all these years

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they're going to be hated on even though

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it took a lot of courage or it took

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permission to do so

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so there's a lot of hypocrisy out there

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and that goes for everyone did you know

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every single person at some point in

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time we have been hypocritical and

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that's human nature it's

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natural

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but people are also aware of this and

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survival is very important to us in the

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sp and the aspects of having social

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status or being able just to merely be

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accepted and not to be bothered look i

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would not want someone knocking at my

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front door if they found my address

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giving it to every person online and

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saying go bother this person because

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they lied about this or they're holding

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this secret or because

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for whatever reason people are

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are malicious at the same time some are

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compassionate and some aren't just like

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what people say about ufos about

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extraterrestrials what they say about

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about certain ghosts or even jinn as

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well you have to go with the bad

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so

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allowing

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certain people to come forward and tell

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their secrets

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it's up to them because there will be

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consequences and that's a fact and

509
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they're not going to be the good type of

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consequences while some might praise

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them the majority of the population

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might not be happy with those for

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instance we can look at louis lozando as

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an example

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he came forward

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he has

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in a very roundabout way to have has

518
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told certain secrets to the public in a

519
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very very soft roundabout way because he

520
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can't say things directly because he

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would end up in prison yeah i don't know

522
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about you i do not want him in prison if

523
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he really is pushing ufo disclosure if

524
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he really is going to dc and and pushing

525
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this conversation forward

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as he tells me he doesn't look good in

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orange

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yeah

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absolutely no i agree i do agree with

530
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you completely because i mean

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lou said recently you know he's taking a

532
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bit of a step back from the community

533
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and in my opinion i think it's fair play

534
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because we don't need to keep putting so

535
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much on him like you know without him we

536
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can't move forward because i believe we

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can i think there's so many people that

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can help this subject so

539
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exactly but he he's he's a good face he

540
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he is a good face someone that has been

541
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part of the government for quite some

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time a part of atip for a good amount of

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time as well specifically looking

544
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at ufos and now where you stand with

545
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that is up to you where people and

546
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reports are saying no it's not a part of

547
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atip yes he was he's lying no he's not i

548
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mean look you're always gonna have

549
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the ying and the yang you're always

550
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going to have

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the the camp that agrees and the camp

552
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that disagrees yeah you simply can't

553
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convince the other camp if they're not

554
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willing to listen and

555
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that's where bias can be very dangerous

556
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when you simply don't want to listen

557
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because you think you have all the

558
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answers because you think you're correct

559
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and for people like ourselves you and me

560
00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:28,640
vinnie

561
00:21:32,630 --> 00:21:30,960
we know being in this field talking to

562
00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:32,640
so many people

563
00:21:38,310 --> 00:21:35,520
guests researchers enthusiasts that

564
00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:38,320
everyone has their own perspective and

565
00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:40,480
in some respects all of them are right

566
00:21:45,909 --> 00:21:44,080
or all of them are wrong we just don't

567
00:21:48,710 --> 00:21:45,919
know but all we can do is listen and

568
00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:48,720
broaden our own horizons of what

569
00:21:54,310 --> 00:21:51,280
we think it is and that's unique for

570
00:21:57,029 --> 00:21:54,320
every single person just like politics

571
00:21:58,710 --> 00:21:57,039
yeah and no one likes politics

572
00:22:00,390 --> 00:21:58,720
no i think you know what though it's

573
00:22:02,310 --> 00:22:00,400
funny i've learned more about the uh

574
00:22:03,590 --> 00:22:02,320
american politics through the ufo

575
00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:03,600
subject

576
00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:04,880
than i ever thought i would even

577
00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:06,480
probably even more so than i know about

578
00:22:11,590 --> 00:22:08,640
uk politics and that's

579
00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:11,600
that's crazy i have to remind myself so

580
00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:13,200
now that was a great answer i completely

581
00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:14,960
agree and i think you mentioned you know

582
00:22:19,350 --> 00:22:16,799
that we do talk to a lot of people and

583
00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:19,360
it you know it can be overwhelming for

584
00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:21,120
hearing all these different opinions and

585
00:22:24,870 --> 00:22:23,440
then trying to process them and fit them

586
00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:24,880
into

587
00:22:30,870 --> 00:22:29,200
a place uh yeah exactly it's amazing and

588
00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:30,880
some information you keep and some of it

589
00:22:33,270 --> 00:22:32,320
you discard you're like that doesn't

590
00:22:36,549 --> 00:22:33,280
really fit

591
00:22:37,909 --> 00:22:36,559
my idea of of these topics for instance

592
00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:37,919
and that is

593
00:22:41,510 --> 00:22:39,039
natural

594
00:22:42,310 --> 00:22:41,520
yeah totally

595
00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:42,320
now

596
00:22:46,630 --> 00:22:44,400
not only have you sort of covering the

597
00:22:49,430 --> 00:22:46,640
ufo subject but you've branched out into

598
00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:49,440
all sorts of other sort of esoteric

599
00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:51,840
areas of research and subjects and you

600
00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:53,679
talk about that on your show mysteries

601
00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:55,840
with a history and a few of the other

602
00:22:59,270 --> 00:22:57,120
shows you do

603
00:23:01,590 --> 00:22:59,280
so i wanted to talk about

604
00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:01,600
first of all i guess the ancient alien

605
00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:03,200
theory you know with pyramids and

606
00:23:05,669 --> 00:23:04,400
structures

607
00:23:08,149 --> 00:23:05,679
you know a lot of people are just

608
00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:08,159
convinced flat out that there is some

609
00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:10,400
connection with an extraterrestrial race

610
00:23:13,510 --> 00:23:11,120
that

611
00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:13,520
you know was in our past do you put any

612
00:23:19,029 --> 00:23:16,960
weight behind that speculatively

613
00:23:22,149 --> 00:23:19,039
it's very possible i mean

614
00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:22,159
what bothers me the one show that i did

615
00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:24,640
was about gobekli tepe one of the oldest

616
00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:27,120
ruins in turkey

617
00:23:29,430 --> 00:23:28,320
and

618
00:23:34,149 --> 00:23:29,440
these

619
00:23:37,270 --> 00:23:34,159
certain stones that are

620
00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:37,280
several tons just being moved by people

621
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:40,080
and these megalithic structures were

622
00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:43,440
built 4 000 years before the alleged

623
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:46,400
invention of the wheel that

624
00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:49,200
that really bothers me

625
00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:50,799
like a lot

626
00:23:55,990 --> 00:23:53,120
to where you're able to build these

627
00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:56,000
beautiful structures with art with 3d

628
00:24:00,630 --> 00:23:58,159
carving so you're not carving into it

629
00:24:04,230 --> 00:24:00,640
you're carving everything around it for

630
00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:04,240
these um foxes and and vultures to pop

631
00:24:08,950 --> 00:24:06,320
out of this rock but the wheel isn't

632
00:24:11,669 --> 00:24:08,960
invented yet

633
00:24:17,430 --> 00:24:14,310
it is crazy isn't it it is no one no one

634
00:24:19,750 --> 00:24:17,440
can convince me to agree with that and

635
00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:19,760
that's where my bias sits in because i i

636
00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:22,159
just don't find it logical

637
00:24:26,630 --> 00:24:23,760
so

638
00:24:30,390 --> 00:24:26,640
when it comes to ancient structures were

639
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:30,400
we helped by extraterrestrials

640
00:24:34,789 --> 00:24:32,400
it's oh all i can say is that it's

641
00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:34,799
possible do i have that evidence no but

642
00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:37,039
what i have noticed from my research so

643
00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:39,200
far and i do want to mention that i'm

644
00:24:42,789 --> 00:24:40,880
still very new to the field there's

645
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:42,799
still so much that i don't know that i

646
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:45,440
haven't touched on some famous cases or

647
00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:49,200
stories that i haven't looked into yet

648
00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:51,200
but one thing that has caught my

649
00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:53,919
attention so far especially doing

650
00:25:00,310 --> 00:24:57,120
research for gobekli tepe

651
00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:00,320
is that across cultures across cultures

652
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:03,440
that never spoke to each other for

653
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:05,520
centuries where that kind of travel just

654
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:07,440
wasn't possible yet

655
00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:10,080
there are certain elements that are the

656
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:11,200
same

657
00:25:14,549 --> 00:25:13,440
across all the cultures at different

658
00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:14,559
time periods

659
00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:16,880
one of those being this purse or this

660
00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:19,279
type of pouch you have it in

661
00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:22,080
you have it with shiva in india you have

662
00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:23,840
it with the sumerians you have these

663
00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:26,080
gods which you consider the anunnaki

664
00:25:31,590 --> 00:25:28,640
holding this bag as well you see it in

665
00:25:32,549 --> 00:25:31,600
gobekli tepe you see it in mexico in the

666
00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:32,559
mayan

667
00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:34,880
art pieces as well

668
00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:36,720
these are countries that

669
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:37,679
in

670
00:25:42,789 --> 00:25:40,320
centuries ago did not speak to each

671
00:25:45,190 --> 00:25:42,799
other they didn't really have too many

672
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:45,200
cultural similarities however their

673
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:47,520
stories and some of their carvings or

674
00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:50,880
paintings or pieces of art are similar

675
00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:52,480
what's the explanation for that well we

676
00:25:56,470 --> 00:25:53,679
can just say

677
00:25:58,710 --> 00:25:56,480
oh well in in some respects they're just

678
00:26:01,830 --> 00:25:58,720
able to just kind of have the same idea

679
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:01,840
at the same point okay it's possible

680
00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:03,840
or we're having

681
00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:07,840
help from another entity

682
00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:11,039
i i simply can't can't place all my if i

683
00:26:16,390 --> 00:26:13,360
was a betting man and i'm not a betting

684
00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:16,400
man or a man but if i was

685
00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:18,080
okay

686
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:21,600
i still wouldn't bet on it because if i

687
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:23,200
unless i can go back in time and look

688
00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:24,960
and be like look so are you are you an

689
00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:27,760
alien sir and then they can tell me yes

690
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:29,840
or no but until then everything is just

691
00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:31,600
speculation

692
00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:33,600
and it's disappointing but at the same

693
00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:35,679
time it's exciting because it keeps you

694
00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:38,159
pushing forward to look for the answers

695
00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:40,640
of are we really

696
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:43,120
yeah absolutely um jln last question

697
00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:45,120
here some of these ancient structures

698
00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:46,880
and manufacture processes have been

699
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:48,159
targeted by

700
00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:50,480
remote viewing teams to determine how

701
00:26:55,029 --> 00:26:53,039
they were built and why any comments on

702
00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:55,039
these data this data

703
00:26:59,269 --> 00:26:57,120
i have heard stories like that i have

704
00:27:01,269 --> 00:26:59,279
researched remote viewing i've even

705
00:27:03,430 --> 00:27:01,279
tried remote viewing myself and let me

706
00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:03,440
tell you it did not work for me but it

707
00:27:08,390 --> 00:27:06,559
does work for some other people

708
00:27:10,390 --> 00:27:08,400
the one story that really caught my

709
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:10,400
actually there's several so we are this

710
00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:12,559
is public information we are aware that

711
00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:14,799
the government the cia in particular

712
00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:17,919
did run a remote viewing program

713
00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:19,600
so this was during

714
00:27:26,070 --> 00:27:23,279
um the 1970s onward we had russell targ

715
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:26,080
who was hired by the cia he created the

716
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:27,760
monroe institute he made his information

717
00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:30,480
public okay

718
00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:32,720
there are a good amount of people that

719
00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:34,720
have come out and then have allegedly

720
00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:36,880
passed away soon after but i've come out

721
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:38,080
and told their stories one of these

722
00:27:43,269 --> 00:27:40,080
people is pat price he was a remote

723
00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:43,279
viewer for the cia and he mentioned that

724
00:27:49,110 --> 00:27:47,200
he remote viewed a alien base in alaska

725
00:27:50,549 --> 00:27:49,120
particularly under a certain mountain in

726
00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:50,559
the mountain is

727
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:52,960
is it mckinney mckinley i think is that

728
00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:54,720
mountain or it's the other one in the

729
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:56,080
same mountain range

730
00:28:02,630 --> 00:27:59,600
so that that one is interesting then we

731
00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:02,640
also have another remote viewer also

732
00:28:08,549 --> 00:28:05,919
hired by the cia uh by the last name of

733
00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:08,559
mcmonagle and he mentioned that he was

734
00:28:11,909 --> 00:28:10,480
able to remote view

735
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:11,919
mars

736
00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:14,240
centuries ago i don't i don't remember

737
00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:15,440
the exact

738
00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:18,640
time period but it was centuries if not

739
00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:20,320
millennia

740
00:28:25,029 --> 00:28:22,480
from present day and he had mentioned

741
00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:25,039
that there were these certain types of

742
00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:28,240
beings living on mars in a pyramid type

743
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:29,279
structure

744
00:28:35,350 --> 00:28:32,320
dealing with some kind of cataclysmic

745
00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:35,360
event on their planet and they were

746
00:28:39,029 --> 00:28:37,440
waiting under the

747
00:28:42,070 --> 00:28:39,039
under the pyramid

748
00:28:45,110 --> 00:28:42,080
for news that a new home has been found

749
00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:45,120
is this information true

750
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:47,840
i don't know but my question would be

751
00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:50,240
why would these high-profile people

752
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:52,559
first tell the public and if they did

753
00:28:57,029 --> 00:28:54,640
and if it was true why would they tell

754
00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:57,039
the truth so there's a lot of questions

755
00:29:01,909 --> 00:28:59,120
but there's also a lot of mind games

756
00:29:03,669 --> 00:29:01,919
involved in these topics of what's true

757
00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:03,679
what's not it's very hard to decipher

758
00:29:08,070 --> 00:29:06,080
and that's the point that's the purpose

759
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:08,080
to make it very difficult for people to

760
00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:09,600
decide

761
00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:11,520
what is true and what isn't certain

762
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:13,440
things that sound absolutely crazy

763
00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:15,360
you're gonna brush it off and say that's

764
00:29:20,070 --> 00:29:17,919
not possible but then watch it watch

765
00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:20,080
that explanation that most crazy

766
00:29:25,029 --> 00:29:22,720
possible explanation be possible as

767
00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:25,039
luella zondo has said and is also a

768
00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:28,159
famous quote is sometimes fact is

769
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:30,399
stranger than fiction

770
00:29:35,669 --> 00:29:31,279
so

771
00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:35,679
particularly mr luella zondo or is he

772
00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:38,000
just using some famous quote to to to

773
00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:40,559
make this conversation more interesting

774
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:41,840
to the public

775
00:29:45,990 --> 00:29:43,360
we don't

776
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:46,000
know but again it leads us to more

777
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:48,720
possibilities or for those to even be

778
00:29:55,269 --> 00:29:51,600
interested in remote viewing and to try

779
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:55,279
it for themselves we're also aware that

780
00:30:00,310 --> 00:29:57,440
there are certain people that can also

781
00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:00,320
astral projects they're able to control

782
00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:03,360
their astral body to exit and to travel

783
00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:04,880
through the ether there are countless

784
00:30:11,590 --> 00:30:07,200
stories like this there are books that

785
00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:11,600
cover how to execute these types of

786
00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:14,480
actions again i've tried it i've never

787
00:30:17,669 --> 00:30:16,159
succeeded and that one that one's very

788
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:17,679
disappointing to me

789
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:19,840
but

790
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:22,080
people have been in an astral body from

791
00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:24,240
the stories from the alleged witness

792
00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:26,880
stories that i've personally encountered

793
00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:29,039
and they're able to also

794
00:30:32,710 --> 00:30:31,760
state look i found this this and this

795
00:30:34,389 --> 00:30:32,720
so

796
00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:34,399
with astral projection with remote

797
00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:37,600
viewing looking for these bases or

798
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:40,480
looking at these things that would be

799
00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:42,240
that wouldn't be easy to find with the

800
00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:44,880
naked eye in human form

801
00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:46,960
what if it's all possible

802
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:49,679
we don't know yeah absolutely it's worth

803
00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:51,360
bearing in mind isn't it and and you

804
00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:53,120
covered remote viewing on your show but

805
00:30:56,950 --> 00:30:54,399
you've also covered things such as

806
00:30:59,909 --> 00:30:56,960
bigfoot the philadelphia experiment the

807
00:31:01,590 --> 00:30:59,919
montauk project do any of those cases or

808
00:31:03,190 --> 00:31:01,600
any of those other subjects that you

809
00:31:04,870 --> 00:31:03,200
looked into do any stick with you and

810
00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:04,880
you think i really do want to research

811
00:31:11,190 --> 00:31:08,720
that specific area more

812
00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:11,200
for the shows that i do for mysteries

813
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:13,679
with the history sometimes i'll be doing

814
00:31:18,389 --> 00:31:15,760
research for another topic and then i

815
00:31:20,630 --> 00:31:18,399
look and then this one certain

816
00:31:22,389 --> 00:31:20,640
topic for example the philadelphia

817
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:22,399
experiment will keep popping up and i'll

818
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:24,720
say okay if a key is popping up that

819
00:31:28,149 --> 00:31:26,720
means that people are interested in this

820
00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:28,159
or that means that there has been some

821
00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:29,360
research done

822
00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:31,679
let's do a show on it now does that mean

823
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:34,240
that i believe these stories no it

824
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:38,080
doesn't but the whole reason for my show

825
00:31:43,029 --> 00:31:39,360
my channel

826
00:31:45,789 --> 00:31:43,039
is to give my generation a foundation

827
00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:45,799
because these topics again are very

828
00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:48,000
overwhelming if you don't know where to

829
00:31:50,630 --> 00:31:49,519
look you're going to fall into a rabbit

830
00:31:53,029 --> 00:31:50,640
hole you're going to come out and you're

831
00:31:53,830 --> 00:31:53,039
going to be a mess if you end up coming

832
00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:53,840
out

833
00:31:58,710 --> 00:31:55,760
but if you're able to have a foundation

834
00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:58,720
if you're able to cover the most famous

835
00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:01,120
stories topics

836
00:32:05,669 --> 00:32:02,799
comments

837
00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:05,679
this can help other people with their

838
00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:08,159
own research and their own journey in in

839
00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:09,679
again what they decipher what they

840
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:12,240
believe to be true or not and i try to

841
00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:15,360
provide as much information as i can

842
00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:16,159
from

843
00:32:21,029 --> 00:32:18,880
as much information i can find

844
00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:21,039
and then allow them to make their own

845
00:32:26,789 --> 00:32:24,720
conclusions so at the end of the day the

846
00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:26,799
things that i cover

847
00:32:31,509 --> 00:32:29,200
i cover them one because they might

848
00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:31,519
catch my interest or two they keep

849
00:32:35,990 --> 00:32:33,840
popping up and that means that it needs

850
00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:36,000
to be covered

851
00:32:40,389 --> 00:32:38,240
yeah absolutely now let's just jump back

852
00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:40,399
on to the kind of ufo bit and because

853
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:41,840
one thing that seems to have cropped up

854
00:32:45,190 --> 00:32:43,360
in the last couple of years are the

855
00:32:46,630 --> 00:32:45,200
possibility of what these beings or

856
00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:46,640
entities are

857
00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:48,720
see for a long time we always had their

858
00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:50,399
ets they're extraterrestrial they're

859
00:32:54,710 --> 00:32:52,320
coming through space you know in a ship

860
00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:54,720
at light speed

861
00:32:58,870 --> 00:32:56,640
but now we have the inter-dimensionals

862
00:33:00,870 --> 00:32:58,880
your crypto-terrestrials and all these

863
00:33:03,669 --> 00:33:00,880
other things on the table do you lean

864
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:03,679
towards any of those uh newer or maybe

865
00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:06,480
not newer but these other possibilities

866
00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:09,120
because for me personally the et1 has

867
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:11,840
slid down down the pecking order so i'd

868
00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:14,640
like to hear your views on that

869
00:33:19,029 --> 00:33:16,159
what's beautiful about these new

870
00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:19,039
possibilities such as interdimensionals

871
00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:20,960
is that science is catching up with this

872
00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:22,640
as well now we know for a fact that

873
00:33:27,029 --> 00:33:24,559
there are multiple

874
00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:27,039
universes we know for a fact there are

875
00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:29,679
different dimensions we know for a fact

876
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:31,519
that there is a thing called string

877
00:33:35,669 --> 00:33:33,760
theory that one atom here can affect

878
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:35,679
something in a different dimension or a

879
00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:39,120
parallel world as well fact these are

880
00:33:41,430 --> 00:33:40,240
facts

881
00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:41,440
so

882
00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:44,159
when you're able to bring in

883
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:46,320
new age science and that those are in

884
00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:47,600
quotation marks

885
00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:48,960
with this

886
00:33:52,389 --> 00:33:51,200
ufo phenomenon

887
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:52,399
it allows

888
00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:54,320
us to open our minds to these new

889
00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:56,399
possibilities because if they're just

890
00:34:02,630 --> 00:33:59,679
terrestrial and especially if these if

891
00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:02,640
these spaceships travel at light speed

892
00:34:07,830 --> 00:34:05,519
plus their heart um yeah you're you're

893
00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:07,840
gonna have very narrow-minded thinking

894
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:10,000
that like oh that means these entities

895
00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:11,760
live for a long period of time they're

896
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:14,240
able to travel a hundred thousand light

897
00:34:18,149 --> 00:34:16,079
years from their planet to hours they

898
00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:18,159
must be for instance two hundred

899
00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:19,440
thousand years old because they're

900
00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:21,520
traveling at light speed because only we

901
00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:24,000
know that we can travel at light speed

902
00:34:28,790 --> 00:34:26,240
that's disappointing that's arrogant and

903
00:34:31,109 --> 00:34:28,800
that's also ignorant to believe that our

904
00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:31,119
technology that we have today

905
00:34:35,349 --> 00:34:34,000
is the same all across the universe for

906
00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:35,359
those that believe that there are

907
00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:38,240
intelligent beings

908
00:34:41,349 --> 00:34:40,000
across our universe

909
00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:41,359
so

910
00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:43,440
it's it's not the best thinking but if

911
00:34:47,829 --> 00:34:45,520
you don't know any better if you're not

912
00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:47,839
taught to think outside of the box

913
00:34:51,669 --> 00:34:49,280
obviously you're going to have that

914
00:34:52,869 --> 00:34:51,679
thinking because you're not encouraged

915
00:34:55,750 --> 00:34:52,879
to look

916
00:34:58,069 --> 00:34:55,760
outside to open that door and to ask

917
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:58,079
those questions so

918
00:35:01,589 --> 00:35:00,560
at the end of the day being curious

919
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:01,599
being

920
00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:08,160
important for humanity to evolve and

921
00:35:14,710 --> 00:35:11,119
that even includes to evolve in our

922
00:35:17,670 --> 00:35:14,720
thinking of all these possibilities so

923
00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:17,680
when it comes to these inter-dimensional

924
00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:20,880
possibilities i find it quite exciting

925
00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:22,960
because that makes me think if they can

926
00:35:26,950 --> 00:35:24,880
travel what about portals could i travel

927
00:35:29,349 --> 00:35:26,960
through a portal could i look someone

928
00:35:31,030 --> 00:35:29,359
could i just go on vacation

929
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:31,040
you know what i would love to try some

930
00:35:34,230 --> 00:35:32,400
exotic fruit

931
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:34,240
hopefully it won't kill me but you know

932
00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:36,800
that would be fantastic so

933
00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:38,320
well while i'm joking with you a little

934
00:35:43,270 --> 00:35:40,800
bit here these are my true thoughts but

935
00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:43,280
even in a very common question it's cool

936
00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:46,160
i like it i honestly i do but but while

937
00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:48,160
this is the case

938
00:35:50,950 --> 00:35:49,680
to be able to think outside of the box

939
00:35:53,829 --> 00:35:50,960
we're able to

940
00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:53,839
invent new pieces of technology that can

941
00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:56,560
move forward with that we are aware that

942
00:36:02,230 --> 00:35:59,760
there are people there has been research

943
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:02,240
into portals specifically at skinwalker

944
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:03,920
ranch this is public information through

945
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,720
the tv show and through bits and pieces

946
00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:08,640
that robert bigelow has also mentioned

947
00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:10,560
when he was a part of when he created

948
00:36:14,230 --> 00:36:12,160
knits

949
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:14,240
so and then i've also interviewed

950
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:16,560
certain people such as jessica jones who

951
00:36:21,270 --> 00:36:18,400
had several teammates

952
00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:21,280
interact with the portal even enter it

953
00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:23,760
which blew my mind i was like

954
00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:25,040
i want to be there

955
00:36:31,510 --> 00:36:29,200
but because people are looking into this

956
00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:31,520
and making it public information or

957
00:36:34,390 --> 00:36:33,040
maybe even making it

958
00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:34,400
mainstream

959
00:36:37,990 --> 00:36:36,880
it allows the rest of the public

960
00:36:39,910 --> 00:36:38,000
to

961
00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:39,920
be interested in it and it just takes

962
00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:42,400
that one person maybe that one genius

963
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:44,320
that can create their own portal in

964
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:46,720
their in their garage all right we are

965
00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:48,160
we are aware that there are some

966
00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:50,240
fantastic scientists that make

967
00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:52,240
everything in their garage in their teen

968
00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:53,200
years

969
00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:54,720
yeah amazing

970
00:36:59,670 --> 00:36:57,200
i wish i was like that but it just takes

971
00:37:01,030 --> 00:36:59,680
that one person to have their interest

972
00:37:03,190 --> 00:37:01,040
peaked

973
00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:03,200
to make that difference

974
00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:05,359
yeah absolutely now funnily enough you

975
00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:06,960
mentioned skinwalker ranch there and

976
00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:08,960
that is literally my next sort of area

977
00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:10,480
of discussion so

978
00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:12,160
let's touch upon it because it was

979
00:37:15,589 --> 00:37:14,240
something i was aware of before the tv

980
00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:15,599
series and things like that through

981
00:37:20,069 --> 00:37:18,000
george knapp and colin kelleher and that

982
00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:20,079
um

983
00:37:23,109 --> 00:37:21,599
i'm going to ask you first would you go

984
00:37:24,310 --> 00:37:23,119
to the ranch

985
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:24,320
dad yes

986
00:37:27,589 --> 00:37:25,680
me too like

987
00:37:29,510 --> 00:37:27,599
there's no question just i'm going to

988
00:37:31,990 --> 00:37:29,520
make sure to bring some snacks

989
00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:32,000
preferably ramen and maybe some grapes

990
00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:33,680
and i'm down like

991
00:37:36,069 --> 00:37:35,119
don't ask me twice

992
00:37:37,349 --> 00:37:36,079
no

993
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:37,359
the reason i ask is because i've asked

994
00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:38,720
this question to people and they've been

995
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:40,240
really hesitant

996
00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:42,800
and i mean i i would go

997
00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:45,040
but i would be very

998
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:47,200
cautious based on the stories that you

999
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:48,320
know we've heard

1000
00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:49,440
many things

1001
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:51,440
i mean without a doubt but the nice

1002
00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:53,040
thing is that let's say

1003
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:55,280
we were invited right let's just go with

1004
00:37:59,910 --> 00:37:57,839
that beautiful idea we were invited the

1005
00:38:01,589 --> 00:37:59,920
people that are on the ranch are already

1006
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:01,599
aware of the situations as long as we

1007
00:38:06,310 --> 00:38:02,960
speak to people that have already had

1008
00:38:07,829 --> 00:38:06,320
experiences they can walk us through it

1009
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:07,839
so

1010
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:10,640
that's where my fear subsides

1011
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:12,160
where i'm like i'm not too worried

1012
00:38:15,910 --> 00:38:13,760
because people have already encountered

1013
00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:15,920
this now have some gotten sick have some

1014
00:38:19,670 --> 00:38:17,839
gotten hurt absolutely but that's the

1015
00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:19,680
risk you're willing to take either one

1016
00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:22,320
just for the thrill or for the research

1017
00:38:26,550 --> 00:38:24,400
aspect of it to prove that there are

1018
00:38:29,109 --> 00:38:26,560
certain hot spots across the globe it's

1019
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:29,119
not just skinwalker ranch that just

1020
00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:32,320
collect this multiple types of phenomena

1021
00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:35,280
what's the reason for it is it some kind

1022
00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:37,680
of attraction that these entities are

1023
00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:39,280
getting through maybe

1024
00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:42,000
like like magnets right you have the

1025
00:38:46,310 --> 00:38:43,359
the positive and the negatives something

1026
00:38:48,310 --> 00:38:46,320
like that is it because right there

1027
00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:48,320
there's just able to be

1028
00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:50,000
there's just kind of this

1029
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:52,160
thin line between different dimensions

1030
00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:54,560
where portals are able to enter and exit

1031
00:38:59,510 --> 00:38:56,560
is it possible that there is some type

1032
00:39:02,150 --> 00:38:59,520
of ancient very advanced technology

1033
00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:02,160
right under that ranch to where they're

1034
00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:04,240
able while certain entities are able to

1035
00:39:09,829 --> 00:39:07,680
harness that energy or to

1036
00:39:12,790 --> 00:39:09,839
turn on that ancient technology and

1037
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:12,800
allow entities to come in and out

1038
00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:14,480
while there's so much research being

1039
00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:16,000
done

1040
00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:18,320
not a lot of that has been made provided

1041
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:19,760
for the public

1042
00:39:25,030 --> 00:39:22,320
the this is also a fact we know this

1043
00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:25,040
will it be maybe in 50 years time maybe

1044
00:39:29,349 --> 00:39:27,040
in a hundred years time when more people

1045
00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:29,359
are interested when there are more hot

1046
00:39:33,589 --> 00:39:31,599
spots being researched and another

1047
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:33,599
example of this is bradshaw ranch in

1048
00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:36,240
sedona arizona it's very similar to

1049
00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:38,800
skinwalker ranch

1050
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:41,599
and this one it's just pretty crazy it

1051
00:39:46,310 --> 00:39:43,599
was owned by the bradshaw family for

1052
00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:48,310
40 something years

1053
00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:50,960
until it was very secretly bought out by

1054
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:54,560
the government in 2003 before that time

1055
00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:55,680
people

1056
00:40:00,790 --> 00:39:58,640
researchers paranormal investigators um

1057
00:40:02,870 --> 00:40:00,800
authors as well just tom dongle they

1058
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:02,880
were able to enter the ranch and do the

1059
00:40:06,309 --> 00:40:04,800
investigations for themselves

1060
00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:06,319
what the

1061
00:40:10,550 --> 00:40:08,000
owners found

1062
00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:10,560
particularly lisa bradshaw

1063
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:13,839
was that she even mentioned that she saw

1064
00:40:19,270 --> 00:40:17,040
a five foot tall bipedal lizard okay

1065
00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:19,280
that sounds like a dinosaur to me and it

1066
00:40:23,109 --> 00:40:21,280
came through a portal she was also able

1067
00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:23,119
to see bigfoot

1068
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:25,440
aliens shadow people

1069
00:40:31,109 --> 00:40:28,560
and werewolves as well

1070
00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:31,119
but it goes back to my main question

1071
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:32,880
is that true

1072
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:35,200
it could be or it could be all a lie

1073
00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:36,480
just to make money but that doesn't

1074
00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:38,880
matter now because in 2003 it's been

1075
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:40,400
bought up by the government now that

1076
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:43,119
that's private property no one can enter

1077
00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:45,760
it and i don't know who you could speak

1078
00:40:51,349 --> 00:40:48,079
to to get permission to enter those

1079
00:40:54,309 --> 00:40:51,359
grounds allegedly there are armed guards

1080
00:40:56,069 --> 00:40:54,319
surrounding the ranch as well so if that

1081
00:40:58,470 --> 00:40:56,079
doesn't say something i don't know what

1082
00:40:59,910 --> 00:40:58,480
does or is it all just a cover-up i'm

1083
00:41:02,390 --> 00:40:59,920
just being like trying to grab your

1084
00:41:04,390 --> 00:41:02,400
attention here so you don't look

1085
00:41:05,349 --> 00:41:04,400
somewhere else

1086
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:05,359
yeah

1087
00:41:08,390 --> 00:41:06,720
just sticking with skin work i mean

1088
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:08,400
that's sorry that was fascinating i've

1089
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:09,760
not heard of bradshaw ranch i'm

1090
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:11,680
definitely gonna gonna go and look into

1091
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:12,480
that

1092
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:14,720
um but with regards to skinwalker we do

1093
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:16,560
see the they're about to go into season

1094
00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:18,720
three of the tv series which

1095
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:20,720
i love and i'm sure they're doing great

1096
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:22,800
work but unfortunately we do get the

1097
00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:24,960
naysayers who say this is just ufo

1098
00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:27,680
attainment or you know ufo entertainment

1099
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:30,319
there's no serious research being done i

1100
00:41:35,349 --> 00:41:32,640
believe there is i i believe you know

1101
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:35,359
brandon fugle has promised okay for a

1102
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:36,640
while that we're going to see data

1103
00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:38,000
released on his website it's not

1104
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:39,359
happened yet

1105
00:41:43,349 --> 00:41:41,280
i believe in patience you know let them

1106
00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:43,359
do their job what are your thoughts on

1107
00:41:46,630 --> 00:41:45,040
people just jumping too quickly to think

1108
00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:46,640
it's just for entertainment and or

1109
00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:49,359
clicks and views we need to keep in mind

1110
00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:50,880
that television

1111
00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:53,359
is literally meant for entertainment

1112
00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:55,760
even to be educational

1113
00:42:01,270 --> 00:41:58,640
it's still entertainment so could you

1114
00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:01,280
imagine these people spending hours of

1115
00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:04,240
days just collecting information in slow

1116
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:07,280
in real time being like oh this is good

1117
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:09,200
this isn't good

1118
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:11,359
it's going to be boring the show is not

1119
00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:12,880
going to make it to the public they

1120
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:15,280
would not have another season

1121
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:17,440
so you have to take the good with the

1122
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,000
again the good with the bad and you have

1123
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:22,560
to bring some entertainment elements in

1124
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:24,640
order to incorporate it with the

1125
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:27,520
research so that everyone can be happy

1126
00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:30,720
the scientists the the enthusiasts and

1127
00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:33,280
those that just want to be entertained

1128
00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:36,640
that again that's what television is and

1129
00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:38,720
that is where hypocrisy lies or they're

1130
00:42:43,829 --> 00:42:41,200
like oh no this is bs then you do your

1131
00:42:45,670 --> 00:42:43,839
research read a 600 page book and you

1132
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:45,680
know what have fun with that you know

1133
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:48,160
and enjoy yourself we also need to keep

1134
00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:49,680
in mind that

1135
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:52,400
television isn't easy it takes a lot of

1136
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:54,400
editing you got to add the music you got

1137
00:42:58,710 --> 00:42:56,000
to make sure that you have a vision of

1138
00:43:02,150 --> 00:42:58,720
what you're creating and you only have

1139
00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:02,160
45 minutes or less to create a whole

1140
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:03,359
story

1141
00:43:05,589 --> 00:43:04,480
with

1142
00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:05,599
hours

1143
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:09,920
work

1144
00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:11,200
so

1145
00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:12,720
you're

1146
00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:14,000
you

1147
00:43:19,109 --> 00:43:16,960
understanding

1148
00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:19,119
that this is television at the end of

1149
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:20,000
the day

1150
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:21,599
it's not a documentary

1151
00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:22,640
no

1152
00:43:26,069 --> 00:43:24,400
i'm just gonna

1153
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:26,079
jail and says vinnie before you jump

1154
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:27,839
into i would definitely go there have

1155
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:29,920
you considered the serious consequences

1156
00:43:34,630 --> 00:43:32,160
experienced by government intel personal

1157
00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:34,640
and the science team via hitchhikers

1158
00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:37,359
i'll just say quickly that i i have

1159
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:39,520
considered it a lot i've spoken to

1160
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:41,440
people who work on the ranch currently

1161
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:43,520
i've spoken to people who

1162
00:43:47,349 --> 00:43:45,119
have worked on the ranch in the past

1163
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:47,359
privately i've had these conversations

1164
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:48,160
with

1165
00:43:52,309 --> 00:43:50,880
people a lot i've considered it yes i

1166
00:43:54,230 --> 00:43:52,319
would go

1167
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:54,240
what about you what about you christina

1168
00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:56,480
have you considered it enough

1169
00:44:01,589 --> 00:43:59,119
uh yeah if i die there look if i have

1170
00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:01,599
the research if i have it recorded

1171
00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:03,839
and someone can post it online it's fine

1172
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:04,880
with me

1173
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:06,400
because

1174
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:07,280
if we

1175
00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:09,839
but to make this a more serious topic if

1176
00:44:13,589 --> 00:44:11,520
we don't take risks

1177
00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:13,599
we're never going to achieve anything

1178
00:44:17,589 --> 00:44:15,680
and we're never going to evolve so it's

1179
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:17,599
those few people that have courage and

1180
00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:18,720
people that have already been on the

1181
00:44:25,510 --> 00:44:21,440
ranch or any field doesn't even matter

1182
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:25,520
but to have that sense of curiosity but

1183
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:27,359
also courage

1184
00:44:33,349 --> 00:44:31,920
that's what helps humanity evolve

1185
00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:33,359
absolutely

1186
00:44:37,670 --> 00:44:35,520
i've got a great question here from uh

1187
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:37,680
lindsay pins of flankton do you feel

1188
00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:39,920
people around your age are more open to

1189
00:44:44,069 --> 00:44:41,760
these mysteries maybe due to growing up

1190
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:44,079
with the internet or less interested

1191
00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:46,240
because of so much in their face social

1192
00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:49,280
media etc i have faith in you this is a

1193
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:50,480
great question

1194
00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:53,680
and with my generation gen zed from 98

1195
00:44:57,270 --> 00:44:55,119
onwards

1196
00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:57,280
it's not a question about these

1197
00:45:02,390 --> 00:44:59,359
mysteries it's not a question if there

1198
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:02,400
is extraterrestrial life

1199
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:04,720
but that's where it ends okay so if i

1200
00:45:09,109 --> 00:45:05,920
say so what do you think they're like

1201
00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:09,119
yeah shrug their shoulders yeah and then

1202
00:45:13,190 --> 00:45:11,200
if i ask more

1203
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:13,200
that's where their their knowledge or

1204
00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:15,839
their interest stops so the historical

1205
00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:18,720
aspects the scientific aspects even if

1206
00:45:24,309 --> 00:45:21,440
we're dealing with nasa or seti or medi

1207
00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:24,319
these these funded private or public

1208
00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:26,800
companies that are trying to interact

1209
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:29,040
with extraterrestrials they don't know

1210
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:30,960
about that information even though one

1211
00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:34,000
it's public and two it's science

1212
00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:35,280
based

1213
00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:36,240
so

1214
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:39,280
again that's why i have my channel

1215
00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:41,280
that's why i direct it towards my

1216
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:43,920
generation specifically

1217
00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:46,560
because i want them to be interested in

1218
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:47,680
this because

1219
00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:49,359
this kind of information

1220
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:51,119
in my opinion here we go in my opinion

1221
00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:52,960
once again

1222
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:54,480
it's important

1223
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:57,200
if we don't know this basic information

1224
00:46:01,829 --> 00:45:59,280
of just extraterrestrials of the history

1225
00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:01,839
that they've possibly have crashed or

1226
00:46:07,109 --> 00:46:04,720
visited or interacted with with humanity

1227
00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:07,119
if we don't have that information

1228
00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:09,520
we would be going into space blind we

1229
00:46:14,710 --> 00:46:11,440
would be traveling other planets

1230
00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:14,720
completely blind and that's dangerous

1231
00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:16,960
it's always important to

1232
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:19,440
gather as much information as you can

1233
00:46:23,190 --> 00:46:21,200
about a location

1234
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:23,200
let's say if you're traveling to to

1235
00:46:27,510 --> 00:46:25,680
mexico for instance you're gonna write

1236
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:27,520
out where you're going you might write

1237
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:29,760
out what restaurants you want to hit you

1238
00:46:34,710 --> 00:46:32,000
might write out which tours you you want

1239
00:46:36,790 --> 00:46:34,720
to go to if you don't and you go blind

1240
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:36,800
it could be dangerous you could interact

1241
00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:38,480
with certain people that you don't want

1242
00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:41,920
to and you might get into situations

1243
00:46:46,390 --> 00:46:43,760
that you're going to regret because you

1244
00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:46,400
didn't have that background knowledge

1245
00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:48,160
so

1246
00:46:52,870 --> 00:46:50,240
these conversations

1247
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:52,880
talking to people that are experts in

1248
00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:54,400
these fields which there are no experts

1249
00:46:58,390 --> 00:46:56,480
but people that that are pretty

1250
00:47:00,670 --> 00:46:58,400
knowledgeable in this

1251
00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:00,680
it's important for

1252
00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:03,920
everyone and now with my generation

1253
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:05,760
and the ones that i've come after yes

1254
00:47:08,309 --> 00:47:06,560
they're

1255
00:47:09,630 --> 00:47:08,319
heavily exposed

1256
00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:09,640
through the internet of

1257
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,640
extraterrestrials of mysteries of even

1258
00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:14,640
things will be classified still as

1259
00:47:20,470 --> 00:47:17,440
fringe science

1260
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:20,480
but even though they're exposed to it

1261
00:47:22,309 --> 00:47:21,280
it's

1262
00:47:24,570 --> 00:47:22,319
upset

1263
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:24,580
it's up to them at the end of the day to

1264
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:25,680
[Music]

1265
00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:27,760
really catch an interest for it and to

1266
00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:31,119
do the extra leg work

1267
00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:33,280
great answers i'm loving these questions

1268
00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:34,640
from everyone in the chat as well so

1269
00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:35,839
we're just going to keep going with them

1270
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:38,079
for now uh another one from sneaky

1271
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:41,920
toaster you're on fire today uh you uapx

1272
00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:44,160
tear in the sky releases soon showing

1273
00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:45,839
the data they've collected

1274
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:47,680
does uap need to be a scientific

1275
00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:50,640
discovery to avoid backlash james red

1276
00:47:55,829 --> 00:47:53,599
james webb fully online soon so i will

1277
00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:55,839
be interviewing the director and several

1278
00:48:00,069 --> 00:47:57,200
people

1279
00:48:02,950 --> 00:48:00,079
that um yeah yeah well yeah we'll talk

1280
00:48:04,710 --> 00:48:02,960
about that later but yeah um

1281
00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:04,720
yes i'll be interviewing them and we'll

1282
00:48:10,150 --> 00:48:07,200
hit questions like that it's very

1283
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:10,160
important that this data is provided but

1284
00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:10,960
again you're dealing with the

1285
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:12,400
documentary you're dealing with a movie

1286
00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:14,240
of entertainment they need to make this

1287
00:48:17,829 --> 00:48:15,920
data look

1288
00:48:21,030 --> 00:48:17,839
interesting they need to make it look

1289
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:21,040
tantalizing so for you to one understand

1290
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:22,800
the background knowledge of what this

1291
00:48:28,390 --> 00:48:25,680
data means to be interested in the data

1292
00:48:30,390 --> 00:48:28,400
and then to keep watching the film

1293
00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:30,400
to see where that data lies so there's a

1294
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:31,359
lot of

1295
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:33,839
brain work that's involved in what a

1296
00:48:37,510 --> 00:48:36,079
two-hour film or less

1297
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:37,520
you need to tell a whole story you need

1298
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:39,839
to provide information that information

1299
00:48:44,470 --> 00:48:42,240
needs to be understood

1300
00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:44,480
by the audience which isn't always easy

1301
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:45,680
if they don't have a background

1302
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:47,520
knowledge on it

1303
00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:48,800
so

1304
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:50,720
that's where it gets

1305
00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:52,480
difficult because you're dealing with

1306
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:53,920
entertainment now if you're if you're

1307
00:48:58,630 --> 00:48:55,680
reading a white paper written by

1308
00:49:00,790 --> 00:48:58,640
scientists proof read by scientists it's

1309
00:49:02,710 --> 00:49:00,800
a different story but how many people

1310
00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:02,720
read white papers you know how hard it

1311
00:49:07,349 --> 00:49:04,960
is to read one sometimes the language

1312
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:07,359
they use the data they provide and the

1313
00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:09,040
data when they even though it's all

1314
00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:11,280
these numbers it doesn't really explain

1315
00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:14,240
what it means or the importance of it

1316
00:49:18,549 --> 00:49:16,240
all the information is there it's public

1317
00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:18,559
for you do you want to read it

1318
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:20,480
probably not

1319
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:23,200
so

1320
00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:25,520
with this film um i will be watching it

1321
00:49:29,990 --> 00:49:27,920
pretty soon before it is released

1322
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:30,000
and i look forward to to the data they

1323
00:49:34,710 --> 00:49:32,960
provide but also how they provide it

1324
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:34,720
because that's important

1325
00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:36,400
absolutely and i've been lucky enough to

1326
00:49:39,829 --> 00:49:38,559
see it already and i am very excited to

1327
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:39,839
see

1328
00:49:48,069 --> 00:49:41,520
yeah

1329
00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:50,069
i'll say quickly to everybody i highly

1330
00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:52,319
recommend everybody go and watch it

1331
00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:54,160
but after you've watched it

1332
00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:56,240
go and either look at the data the white

1333
00:49:59,670 --> 00:49:58,160
papers as christina says and the

1334
00:50:01,109 --> 00:49:59,680
peer-reviewed scientific stuff that

1335
00:50:02,390 --> 00:50:01,119
they've said is coming out go and look

1336
00:50:04,390 --> 00:50:02,400
at that or at least talk to somebody

1337
00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:04,400
who's looked at it because i think

1338
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:05,920
a lot of questions will come from this

1339
00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:07,839
documentary a lot of conversations will

1340
00:50:11,990 --> 00:50:09,680
come from it as well i'm excited for

1341
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:12,000
that and with james fox's new

1342
00:50:16,950 --> 00:50:14,880
documentary as well about varginia

1343
00:50:18,230 --> 00:50:16,960
brazil i just watched it i watched the

1344
00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:18,240
final cut

1345
00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:20,480
oh you everyone that's what i'm saying

1346
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:22,720
right now you i'm telling you if you

1347
00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:25,359
liked if you liked his last movie

1348
00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:26,960
you are going to

1349
00:50:31,190 --> 00:50:28,800
love

1350
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:31,200
this new one i was so impressed with his

1351
00:50:36,549 --> 00:50:33,440
work and he did it in four months

1352
00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:36,559
uh doing all the editing i'm telling you

1353
00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:38,880
his new movie argenia brazil you're

1354
00:50:42,870 --> 00:50:41,680
gonna die so good wow

1355
00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:42,880
wow

1356
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:44,240
that'll be a conversation we can have

1357
00:50:47,349 --> 00:50:45,760
after everyone's seen it yeah i feel

1358
00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:47,359
like we're teasing a bit here sorry

1359
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:49,040
everyone

1360
00:50:51,670 --> 00:50:50,880
let's move on to this

1361
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:51,680
yeah

1362
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:53,760
here's a great one christina if you were

1363
00:50:57,670 --> 00:50:55,920
abducted and could ask one question what

1364
00:51:01,030 --> 00:50:57,680
would you ask

1365
00:51:02,390 --> 00:51:01,040
uh can i just travel with you

1366
00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:02,400
i wouldn't come back

1367
00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:04,640
oh really

1368
00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:07,440
that's it if i'm going i'm like no now i

1369
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:09,760
am luggage and you can't dump me i'll

1370
00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:11,760
make sure to cook for you guys not a

1371
00:51:15,670 --> 00:51:13,680
problem just give me ingredients i just

1372
00:51:18,390 --> 00:51:15,680
need ramen like fat and i need some

1373
00:51:20,069 --> 00:51:18,400
cumin as well so just drop me off at the

1374
00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:20,079
grocery store really quickly just buy a

1375
00:51:24,790 --> 00:51:23,440
few years supply and uh that's it so

1376
00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:24,800
don't bring me back

1377
00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:27,119
wow that's brave that is brave i would

1378
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:29,200
say i'd love the traveling bit but take

1379
00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:30,480
me back after

1380
00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:32,559
a couple of weeks or so

1381
00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:34,319
go big or go home right

1382
00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:36,480
nice i like that attitude i'm just not

1383
00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:38,960
that brave maybe it's the age thing

1384
00:51:46,710 --> 00:51:45,109
uh let's see where else we are ah this

1385
00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:46,720
was one that you know we saw through the

1386
00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:48,640
pandemic and the covid thing that a lot

1387
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:50,319
of people were stuck at home and of

1388
00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:54,160
course the ufo podcast scene exploded

1389
00:51:57,910 --> 00:51:55,760
with new podcasts

1390
00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:57,920
you know like me being one of them

1391
00:52:03,109 --> 00:51:59,520
so

1392
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:03,119
out there and that which i just don't

1393
00:52:06,790 --> 00:52:04,720
agree with whatsoever i think everybody

1394
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:06,800
has a voice so everybody can have the

1395
00:52:10,309 --> 00:52:08,720
conversation people could just choose to

1396
00:52:12,069 --> 00:52:10,319
watch it or not

1397
00:52:13,670 --> 00:52:12,079
what advice would you give to anybody

1398
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:13,680
who was thinking you know they want to

1399
00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:15,119
be a voice and they want to start a

1400
00:52:18,710 --> 00:52:16,960
podcast is there anything that you would

1401
00:52:20,069 --> 00:52:18,720
want to say to them just to kind of help

1402
00:52:21,270 --> 00:52:20,079
them

1403
00:52:24,390 --> 00:52:21,280
start now

1404
00:52:26,950 --> 00:52:24,400
even though there are countless podcasts

1405
00:52:28,870 --> 00:52:26,960
how many of those do you personally like

1406
00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:28,880
why do you like them can you relate to

1407
00:52:33,670 --> 00:52:30,880
that person are they in your age range

1408
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:33,680
do they follow your cultural background

1409
00:52:39,829 --> 00:52:35,680
do you like the information they provide

1410
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:39,839
while there are hundreds of ufo podcasts

1411
00:52:44,950 --> 00:52:41,920
there are only a few for each person

1412
00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:44,960
that you can individually identify with

1413
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:46,720
and there are some that you just can't

1414
00:52:50,950 --> 00:52:49,119
identify with at all that's how i felt

1415
00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:50,960
personally

1416
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:51,839
i'm

1417
00:52:56,470 --> 00:52:53,680
latin american

1418
00:52:59,510 --> 00:52:56,480
female and very young

1419
00:53:02,549 --> 00:52:59,520
there was no one that i could look

1420
00:53:04,710 --> 00:53:02,559
that i that i could be inspired by

1421
00:53:06,069 --> 00:53:04,720
except maybe linda molten howe but we're

1422
00:53:07,670 --> 00:53:06,079
definitely different

1423
00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:07,680
for age gap

1424
00:53:12,230 --> 00:53:10,240
aside from that aside from that

1425
00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:12,240
i created one

1426
00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:14,400
not only to help myself do research but

1427
00:53:19,670 --> 00:53:17,280
for other people to to find a voice

1428
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:19,680
through me if they wanted to

1429
00:53:24,630 --> 00:53:22,240
because there are countless ones yes but

1430
00:53:25,349 --> 00:53:24,640
again how many can you personally relate

1431
00:53:31,990 --> 00:53:25,359
to

1432
00:53:35,829 --> 00:53:32,000
even if they have 10 subscribers or a

1433
00:53:37,270 --> 00:53:35,839
hundred million trillion thousand

1434
00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:37,280
that number doesn't exist just want to

1435
00:53:41,670 --> 00:53:39,599
put that out there but

1436
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:41,680
it just takes that one person for that

1437
00:53:46,870 --> 00:53:45,200
curiosity to peak once again so if you

1438
00:53:49,589 --> 00:53:46,880
want to be that voice create your

1439
00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:49,599
podcast right now please do research

1440
00:53:53,109 --> 00:53:51,359
when you interview guests don't go in

1441
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:53,119
blind like a newbie

1442
00:53:58,950 --> 00:53:55,760
watch other people and learn from them

1443
00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:58,960
and you're gonna end up doing fantastic

1444
00:54:03,270 --> 00:54:00,960
if it truly is your passion to start a

1445
00:54:06,549 --> 00:54:03,280
podcast but don't create one if it's

1446
00:54:07,750 --> 00:54:06,559
just for gags do it for real

1447
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:07,760
yeah absolutely it's got to be for the

1448
00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:10,800
right reasons and there are many reasons

1449
00:54:14,790 --> 00:54:11,920
you know

1450
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:14,800
um so what's next for you i mean in the

1451
00:54:18,710 --> 00:54:16,640
short term in the coming weeks but also

1452
00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:18,720
long term let's let's sort two part

1453
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:20,000
question

1454
00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:22,160
in the short term um

1455
00:54:26,710 --> 00:54:25,200
probably a nap but in the long term

1456
00:54:28,870 --> 00:54:26,720
in the long term

1457
00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:28,880
uh like i had mentioned a bit earlier

1458
00:54:33,430 --> 00:54:29,760
it's

1459
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:33,440
really saving up to buy a trailer and to

1460
00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:35,520
travel the united states and and to

1461
00:54:38,470 --> 00:54:36,880
document it

1462
00:54:41,670 --> 00:54:38,480
so

1463
00:54:43,109 --> 00:54:41,680
that is very important for me and people

1464
00:54:44,789 --> 00:54:43,119
say oh you're just a college student

1465
00:54:46,789 --> 00:54:44,799
eating a lot of ramen i'm eating a lot

1466
00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:46,799
of ramen for the right reasons so i can

1467
00:54:55,750 --> 00:54:52,549
look at those future goals right there

1468
00:54:57,990 --> 00:54:55,760
so that is where my future lies there i

1469
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:58,000
am working on three shows a week now

1470
00:55:01,829 --> 00:54:59,760
starting this week it'll be official it

1471
00:55:04,069 --> 00:55:01,839
should be just be two shows a week

1472
00:55:05,349 --> 00:55:04,079
now it'll be three if not more if i can

1473
00:55:06,789 --> 00:55:05,359
provide it

1474
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:06,799
because

1475
00:55:10,710 --> 00:55:08,960
this conversation is

1476
00:55:12,950 --> 00:55:10,720
very important to have no matter how

1477
00:55:14,870 --> 00:55:12,960
many podcasts no matter how many

1478
00:55:17,109 --> 00:55:14,880
channels there are

1479
00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:17,119
if we just touch that one person it's

1480
00:55:21,670 --> 00:55:19,280
going to make that difference

1481
00:55:24,630 --> 00:55:21,680
yeah absolutely absolutely couldn't

1482
00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:24,640
agree more well before we finish um what

1483
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:26,079
i want to say is that i think you're

1484
00:55:29,190 --> 00:55:28,160
doing great work um i think we need

1485
00:55:32,950 --> 00:55:29,200
people like

1486
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:32,960
you i mean me and you and everyone but

1487
00:55:36,390 --> 00:55:34,400
yeah but this is the thing everyone that

1488
00:55:38,069 --> 00:55:36,400
does want a voice or just want to speak

1489
00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:38,079
to people in in the community because

1490
00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:39,280
you know we've been lucky enough to

1491
00:55:43,349 --> 00:55:41,760
speak to many guests just by putting

1492
00:55:44,950 --> 00:55:43,359
ourselves out there and i think that

1493
00:55:46,789 --> 00:55:44,960
more people if they want to do it should

1494
00:55:49,589 --> 00:55:46,799
do it so i completely agree there

1495
00:55:51,030 --> 00:55:49,599
completely agree um i'm just going to

1496
00:55:52,950 --> 00:55:51,040
throw this question up because it just

1497
00:55:55,190 --> 00:55:52,960
popped up and i saw it

1498
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:55,200
what's your opinion spiritual phenomenon

1499
00:56:03,670 --> 00:56:00,549
my favorite commercial of all time sorry

1500
00:56:04,549 --> 00:56:03,680
but um why can't it be both

1501
00:56:09,430 --> 00:56:04,559
why

1502
00:56:11,670 --> 00:56:09,440
that we're seeing is just in one

1503
00:56:13,990 --> 00:56:11,680
category why place all your eggs in one

1504
00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:14,000
basket if you drop those eggs

1505
00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:16,559
who's how are you gonna have an omelet

1506
00:56:19,510 --> 00:56:18,559
it won't be possible right

1507
00:56:23,510 --> 00:56:19,520
so

1508
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:23,520
spiritual i mean there are people

1509
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:25,920
believe that there are multiple races

1510
00:56:30,870 --> 00:56:28,960
visiting us some believe there even

1511
00:56:33,430 --> 00:56:30,880
these entities classified as light

1512
00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:33,440
beings that can come in physical form or

1513
00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:35,359
in an energetic form

1514
00:56:39,670 --> 00:56:38,160
you can't place all them in in one in

1515
00:56:42,390 --> 00:56:39,680
one category i mean look at all the

1516
00:56:43,910 --> 00:56:42,400
plants we have on our planet alone are

1517
00:56:47,109 --> 00:56:43,920
they all classified as plants you're

1518
00:56:48,950 --> 00:56:47,119
going to call them flowers trees grass

1519
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:48,960
so on and so forth

1520
00:56:52,710 --> 00:56:49,920
so

1521
00:56:58,470 --> 00:56:55,670
why not the both of them

1522
00:57:01,190 --> 00:56:58,480
no great answer completely agree now

1523
00:57:02,870 --> 00:57:01,200
i've put all of your links and stuff in

1524
00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:02,880
the description below but we also go out

1525
00:57:06,789 --> 00:57:04,720
on the anomalous podcast network so for

1526
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:06,799
anybody that's listening to this where

1527
00:57:11,589 --> 00:57:08,640
can we find you

1528
00:57:13,589 --> 00:57:11,599
you can find me best on twitter i place

1529
00:57:17,589 --> 00:57:13,599
all of my updates and all of my shows on

1530
00:57:20,309 --> 00:57:17,599
there at eyes underscore on the skies or

1531
00:57:23,349 --> 00:57:20,319
you can catch me on youtube and on all

1532
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:23,359
podcast platforms typing in christina

1533
00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:25,440
gomez there's no h so it's just

1534
00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:27,760
c-r-i-s-t-i-n-a

1535
00:57:34,710 --> 00:57:32,880
gomez or at paradigm shifts

1536
00:57:36,150 --> 00:57:34,720
awesome i want to thank you so much for

1537
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:36,160
joining me today if you don't mind

1538
00:57:40,309 --> 00:57:38,400
hanging about till we finish the show we

1539
00:57:43,030 --> 00:57:40,319
can just have a little debrief pun

1540
00:57:45,589 --> 00:57:43,040
intended after the show um

1541
00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:45,599
thank you to everybody watching uh i

1542
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:46,880
really appreciate everybody and the

1543
00:57:51,030 --> 00:57:49,040
questions were great today i mean they

1544
00:57:53,030 --> 00:57:51,040
always are but thank you guys so much

1545
00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:53,040
i'm going to be back next week uh where

1546
00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:54,880
i'll be joined by tim mcmillan i'm

1547
00:57:58,950 --> 00:57:57,200
looking forward to speaking to tim um

1548
00:58:01,430 --> 00:57:58,960
but guys go follow me on twitter and

1549
00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:01,440
instagram for all my updates as well

1550
00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:03,680
but for now thank you for watching and

1551
00:58:06,549 --> 00:58:05,520
listening and i'll see you soon take